Posts by FatFreek 2005

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Peanut butter cup company avoided near marketing disaster

by FatFreek 2005 in

few today realize that the peanut butter cup people were close to failure that is, until they changed its name.

now you know the rest of the story.

len.. .

FatFreek 2005

Few today realize that the peanut butter cup people were close to failure – that is, until they changed its name. Now you know the rest of the story. Len.

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[MP3] The District Conventions from the 1950s to the 2010s

by possible-san in

well, if you click the "theme" of each talk, you can listen to the talk by mp3.. in particular, with respect to the mp3s of the dcs in 2010 and 2011, you can listen to most of them.. .

http://www.centralprint.net/jwtalks/dc/conventions.html.

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FatFreek 2005

Thanks for those, Possible.

Baptisms are at a dead crawl compared to the old days. How things have changed.

Well, then, they need to increase their birth rate and get members the old fashioned way. Then baptize 'em at 6 (there are no less than 2 yearbook experiences that recount such early ones), then refuse admittance* to any less than 12 years old even when accompanying their parents.

Len

*the upcoming worldwide convention tour group in Europe which was recounted here a week or so ago.

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[MP3] The District Conventions from the 1950s to the 2010s

by possible-san in

well, if you click the "theme" of each talk, you can listen to the talk by mp3.. in particular, with respect to the mp3s of the dcs in 2010 and 2011, you can listen to most of them.. .

http://www.centralprint.net/jwtalks/dc/conventions.html.

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FatFreek 2005

Amen to that, Kurt. Failing human memory and denial are some of the biggest enemies to truth. Iran and others are doing their best to discount the Holocaust. "It never happened". Modern JWs, many of them from ignorance since they came in later, are doing exactly the same. "1975 is just an apostate thing". The old-timers, of course, do nothing to remind them (and themselves) of that horrible period of empty claims. If it weren't for the internet and the Watchtower Library CD, Watchtower would do their darndest to squelch it. Len

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[MP3] The District Conventions from the 1950s to the 2010s

by possible-san in

well, if you click the "theme" of each talk, you can listen to the talk by mp3.. in particular, with respect to the mp3s of the dcs in 2010 and 2011, you can listen to most of them.. .

http://www.centralprint.net/jwtalks/dc/conventions.html.

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FatFreek 2005

Hi Possible,

Thanks for posting that incredible bank of data. While I'm on budgeted bandwidth I can't browse (especially audio and video files) as much as others who have no limits. I can imagine that there may be a few "smoking guns" of audio evidence during the years preceding 1975 -- where district overseers and others went beyond their scripts during their discourses.

I hope if someone finds these they will post some snippet transcripts.

Len

Greeting Card software -- what's good?

by FatFreek 2005 in

a few days ago i received my hallmark card studio 2011 and it seemed to work well after i configured the 2 sided printing.

i printed a few birthday cards (please don't tell the elders) for judy's friends.. today, i've spent half the day trying to print her birthday card, created yesterday.

nothing but trouble.

FatFreek 2005

A few days ago I received my Hallmark Card Studio 2011 and it seemed to work well after I configured the 2 sided printing. I printed a few birthday cards (please don't tell the elders) for Judy's friends.

Today, I've spent half the day trying to print her birthday card, created yesterday. Nothing but trouble. It seems to have forgotten how to instruct me to put the card stock back in the printer after side 1, it cobbled a piece of clip art (a rose) amongst a piece of text on the front page, and now it's forgotten completely the last 3 of 4 sides of the card. They're blank although the thumbnails look correct. (I do have a backup on another disk.

So Hallmark is getting this piece of junk back. And I avoided their 2012 version because of bad reviews, I should've known better to order an older version.

So -- what do you use?

Len

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Wish I didnt know....Part 2 My Story

by Wishididntknow in

after a terrible break up and being away from the congregation for about 10yrs i started to think about coming back.

i couldnt even watch the news anymore because of the termendous anxiety it would cause.

i felt that there was a target on my back and the big a would surely come before i could get my act together.

FatFreek 2005

OutsmartTheSystem, What a great parallel -- the typical pyramid scheme. Most of it fits and that is scary.

Wishi, welcome to our fine group. It sounds like you're off to a good start. Be patient with yourself. As you expressed yourself, your words took me back to my same feelings and aprehensions -- 34 years ago. It will get better.

Len

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The Preparation Directive

by Flat_Accent in

FatFreek 2005

You mean "H"? As in Preparation H.

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When will world realize zero population growth?

by N.drew in

metatron in your opinion do you think the world will see it soon?

how soon?.

FatFreek 2005

When the USA stops subsidizing its citizens and other countries for simply squirting out babies.

Oops! I didn't realize this was a private thread to Metatron.

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My critical thoughts about Paul

by I Want to Believe in

so this is an area of thought i had before even before i fully took the apostate plunge.

i started noticing that almost everything about the congregation pointed back to paul.. "do not forsake the gathering of yourselves together.

" not jesus' words.

FatFreek 2005

Hi IWTB,

I see what you mean. You may find the following from WIKI interesting, "Pauline Christianity is a term used to refer to the Christianity associated with the beliefs and doctrines espoused by Paul of Tarsus through his writings ."

A few weeks ago when the country (USA) was wild with Tebowing, I made critical mention of how his public display of his faith turns off many people, including me, and what part of Jesus' words about going into a closet and praying does Tebow and people like him not get? Yes, she says, but Paul's words say yada yada yada. Then I say, so the founder of Christianity is trumped by one of his followers? End of discussion.

How about the shunning that JWs and other fundies use? All Pauline based, "not even eating with such a person". Years ago when I asked one of the other elders why we don't shun all DFd ones, including family members (recall, Paul makes no distinction), he made the point that it would be going a bit too far -- that is, to shun family. I then said, so Watchtower trumps writings in the Bible? The discussion changed.

We could go on and on.

Len

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I've made a Witness friend at work

by PenelopePaige in

a new girl has begun working in my office.

she is a jw and has just moved to my state after leaving florida (where she's from) and where her entire family lives.

i've become relatively chummy with her.

FatFreek 2005

It can not hurt to tell her you studied , that way she will know you understand a bit more about her . Troubled Mind

I believe that to be true. I use that expression whenever I talk to someone I learn to be a JW. Invariably they then ask, "Oh -- may I ask why you quit studying?"

The door is now open.

You: "This link right here presented some questions that my teacher simply couldn't deal with." (proceed to hand her a small slip of paper with the internet link goo.gl/TkcHt). Yes, it's that short and you don't need the HTTP:// prefix. If she slips it into her purse you won't know whether or not she actually checks it out -- but you've planted the seed.

It would be a good idea to browse it yourself first so that you can honestly endorse it. It's a link to THE GREAT WATCHTOWER CONTRADICTION, an 11 minute read that is designed for ones who have begun studying and are considering the Watchtower religion. If your new friend happens to check it out for herself it will probably make her very uncomfortable with some things she has believed all her Watchtower life.

Good luck.

Len